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This Week’s “Super Soul Original Short” features award-winning chef Marcus Samulesson


Oprah Winfrey with John Mackey (Photo Credit: Harpo Studios, Inc. / George Burns)

Los Angeles – Oprah sits down with Whole Foods Market co-founder and co-CEO John Mackey for a rare conversation about the mindfulness, creativity, adventure and love that goes into running this billion-dollar business in an all-new episode of “Super Soul Sunday” airing this Sunday, June 8 at 11 a.m. ET/PT on OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network.


In this week’s episode, John shares his inspiring personal story and why he believes it is critical that we all strive to live more conscious lives.  Oprah and John also discuss his New York Times bestselling book “Conscious Capitalism: Liberating the Heroic Spirit of Business.” Additionally, in this week’s “Super Soul Sunday Original Short” we are going inside the kitchen of award-winning Chef Marcus Samulesson.  


EXCERPT: How John Mackey Found His Purpose

OPRAH:  First of all, tell me how the idea for Whole Foods came about.  I mean, you were the perfect entrepreneur.

JOHN:  I mean, honestly, I moved into this vegetarian co-op when I was 23 years old.  I wasn't a vegetarian.  I never lived in a co-op before. I did it partly because I was young and I thought it would be a good experience.  I'd meet interesting people.  And I did. And I –

OPRAH:  Did you have the kind of parents that thought that was okay?

JOHN:  I don't even know if I told my parents.  They probably wouldn't have approved. For sure. But I moved in and my food consciousness really got awakened.  I –

OPRAH:  In this communal living.

JOHN:  Yes. And I became the food buyer for the co-op.  I fell in love with it. As Joseph Campbell says, I was following my bliss, followed my heart, really felt drawn to it, and the more I learned, the more interested I got. My passion of this really awakened. It was about selling healthy food to people.  Earning a living and having fun. 

EXCERPT: John Mackey on 3 Things That Feed the Soul

OPRAH:  I love this -- this -- you write about a quality you describe as spiritual intelligence.

JOHN:  Yes.

OPRAH:  Yes.  Define that.  You said that "Having high IQ isn't enough. How can you tell if someone has high spiritual intelligence?

JOHN:  Spiritual intelligence has to do, first of all, with people having that sense of higher purpose that we talked about.

OPRAH:  Yeah.

JOHN:  Spiritual intelligence is recognizing purpose.  And some people have the natural ability to see meaning and purpose.

OPRAH:  Mm-hmm.

JOHN:  Spiritual intelligence also correlates very closely with one's sense of truth and beauty and goodness.  These are things that our souls metabolize to be healthy.  We need beauty.  We need truth.  And we need goodness. High spiritual intelligence has those qualities.  Recognizes them and values them and recognizes it in the world.

OPRAH:  Wow.

JOHN:  And finally I think a good indicator of spiritual intelligence is a strong sense of ethics.  What is right.  People -- people with high spiritual intelligence know when something's wrong --

OPRAH:  Yeah.

JOHN:  And they know when something's right.  And they're pretty clear about it.

OPRAH:  How would you score on the spiritual intelligence scale?

JOHN:  I score well enough to know I have a long way to go still.

EXCERPT: Super Soul Short: How Chef Marcus Samuelsson Finds Calm in the Kitchen

MARCUS: My kitchen is my comfort zone, platform, lab, church, playground.  The kitchen as chaotic as it might look like for me it's a very calming place. You work with your hands, so it's a craft. You are plating like an artist, so that's an artistry. You telling a story like a writer, so it's almost like you're working like a poet and you're combining all of that like a magician. I been cooking all my life. It's the one thing that I been able to enjoy and love and I'm as curious about food today as I was when I started. The person my first mentor was my grandmother, my grandmother Helga. Her name is on the door above the kitchen, you see: H. Jonsson. It's me tipping the hat to my grandmother. I learned everything about food and and love and curiosity about cooking through my grandmother.   

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About “Super Soul Sunday”

“Super Soul Sunday” is the multi-award winning daytime series that delivers a timely thought-provoking, eye-opening and inspiring block of programming designed to help viewers awaken to their best selves and discover a deeper connection to the world around them.  Recognized by the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences with a Daytime Emmy® award, the Alliance of Women in Media Foundation with a Gracie award and the Religion Communicators Council with a Wilbur award, “Super Soul Sunday” features all-new conversations between Oprah Winfrey and top thinkers, authors, visionaries and spiritual leaders.  Exploring themes and issues including happiness, personal fulfillment, spirituality and conscious living, guests who have appeared include Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel, Dr. Maya Angelou, Gary Zukav, Marianne Williamson, Ram Dass, Eckhart Tolle, indie.arie, Coach Phil Jackson, don Miguel Ruiz, and Thich Nhat Hanh.  Home to Oprah’s Book Club 2.0, the series has helped surge book sales of bestselling author Cheryl Strayed, debut novelist Ayana Mathis and bestselling author Sue Monk Kidd.  A truly unique television experience, this groundbreaking series has attracted one of the most loyal, active and engaged social communities in television.  Every episode has ranked in the top ten most social shows in broadcast television and cable, frequently spiking to number one (source: Bluefin Data).  Produced by Harpo Studios, “Super Soul Sunday” presents an array of perspectives on what it means to be alive in today’s world.







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